BrianEnos.com The big-bore Glocks are Gen 3 or Gen 4. IIRC this was early on when Glock denied the issue but the 30274 was available to police department armorers. GLO-3442. By the end of this article, you should have a good idea of what it means when you see "Glock Gen Whatever" and understand what it means, especially if you were thinking of buying a Glock pistolwhich is always a good call. Gaston Glock ushered in the modern era of polymer framed pistols. I own two other 9mm glocks (19/26) and the extractors on those look like the hook portion is slightly deeper compared to the extractor on the 19 that is stove piping, but it is really hard to tell with the naked eye etc.. My 19x only has 1 pin. I figured I'd try this for fun with a Gen 4 19 that has periodic BTF with lower powered cheap ammo. You are at the right place. At the end of the day, all three Glocks make great additions to any pistol collection and all three reliably serve as concealed carry options. I dont think I got much more bang for my buck with the Apex Tactical extractor than I would with the other one. For .40/.357 1882 is Gen3, Gen4 .40 is 28926 and .357 has its own Gen4 ejector. Sometimes you can get great deals on plain Gen 3s, and why not take advantage? When a case is slipped beneath an extractor, it has little or no tension on it. However, if your needs or wants in a handgun are very basic - ie you just want a workhorse pistol and don't care about the niceties - the Gen 3 Glocks are hardly going to let you down in any way and are a bit cheaper. The Models G26 (9x19), G27 (.40 S&W) and G33 (.357 SIG) are sub compact pistols particularly well suited to concealed carry. You can select from the following options based on the ejections in real time and slow motion shown in the video. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. The Gen 4 and 5 ejectors will work in Gen 3s. It is ny first Glock, so I have nothing to compare it to, but am happy with it. The Gen 5 guns are widely considered to need a lot less work. Its not the first Glock Ive had that had a piss-poor RSA by design. Tolerance stacking is the problem across the board. Finally we have the 47021 ejector. Another curiosity is the Glock 47, which is not offered for sale but is manufactured by Glock for the US Border Patrol. The 47 is a Glock 17 MOS slide on a Glock 45 frame, so it's not supremely unique by any stretch. I swapped all 4x of my 30274's with 407021's. Glock slide plates are interchangeable between different model Glocks, allowing for a variety of customizations to the slide. There are no differences between Gen1 and Gen2 pistols because of their Generation 3 parts. In this article, well dive into the differences between the various Glock extractors and explore which one is best for your needs. Subtotal: Add to Cart. The problem didnt start with Gen4, it got worse in 2009 when the MIM extractors and incorrectly machined slides became more common. Initially I used Winchester 124 gr NATO ammo, today I shot Federal 115. Does anyone know if there is any significant difference between the Suarez and Apex extractors? Add to Cart Compare Quick view. This Glock G17 / G19 Gen5 Extractor is a genuine factory replacement part for your Gen5 Glock pistol. The Gen 4 brought about a more modern era to the Glock design. Shot the G30sf this morning along side of the G21sf and the G30sf still throws brass onto the bill of my ball cap even with the G21 extractor installed. The . Some guns sent with BTF to Glock return with the 30274 ejector installed. The MINUS connector is available in G17L, G24, G34, and G35 models, as well as in G17L, G24, G34, and G35 models. What is best in life? The slower slide speed caused by the heavier recoil springs, combined with the lower slide velocity caused by the slower slide speed, contributed to the BTF issue. Understanding Ammo Choices For The Glock 19: Pros And Cons Of Short Barrel And Regular Ammo, Accuracy And Precision With The Glock New York Trigger, Loading Your Glock 44: A Step-by-Step Guide To Safely And Effectively Load Your Magazine. $10.99. Create an Account; Login; Create an Account; Cart (0) View Cart; Checkout; Brownells Brownells 75th Anniversary - A Shooting Heritage. It's sort of like cars. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Enable Accessibility. In the video, I state that I prefer slow motion analysis, because it is what many people dont do. Apex: Black color. The 9 ejector will want to strike the casehead a little farther inboard than the 40 ejector will. While the car is the same in many respects, a lot changes. In fact, the Lone Wolf extractor looked and fit EXACTLY like the extractor in my older Gen3 G19. All gen 4-5 now and no btf with those. By (Photo: Jacki Billings/Guns.com). I bought a new 17L in '09 that had bad ejection it would regularly stovepipe. Apex is an independent manufacturer and seller of aftermarket parts and accessories for Glock pistols, and is not affiliated with or endorsed by Glock, Inc. or Glock Ges.m.b.H. Well also examine why having the right extractor is important and how it can affect the performance of your gun. I also fired a box of Tula brass cased ammo that I had bought from Wal Mart a few years ago in my BBHB serial number prefix G17, and ejection was all over the place! The biggest difference between the extractors is that the 40 extractor has a 5-degree bevel on the front to reduce stress on the lower part of the hook during feeding.. Hell, it even ejected to the left and the front of the gun, ejection was so bad. The base 48 uses the same frame, but adds a longer (4.2 inches) barrel and slide. Ejection is perfect except on the last round, then it is weak and erratic. Because it is consistent enough over thousands of rounds (and thus does not require Glock extractors) that Apex is worth $60-70. Preorders are charged when the order is placed and shipped as soon as the product is available. Swenson extractor hook looks like it is shaped slightly differently where it touches the cartridge rim. However, for practicalitys sake, the best option is to purchase the trigger housing, which has already been installed. An example of a reformated spread sheet similar to FRM-72-26, minus any errors or omission, would be valuable. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. The Gen 3 is a classic, a vintage throwback to the late 1990s. Was it a slip on your part? All the extractor does is exactly what it's name says. It's also the case that some guns - such as the Glock 40 in 10mm or Glock 41 in .45 ACP - are only optic-ready in Gen 4 trim. All Rights Reserved, Glock Gen 3, 4, or 5: What Generation is Right for Me? The TORO (Taurus Optics Ready Option) is touted as the first-ever optics-ready revolver, and being a sucker for red dots and handguns, I had to try it. Recoil springs are not interchangeable between the third and fourth generation with an adapter. Thanks! Glock couldn't fix it and neither could I as the aftermarket parts to fix it weren't available yet. Id rather see the Apex on the field than the iPhone if I could see it only with my naked eyes. I own two G30sfs and both have a bad BTF habit. Keep up thd good work. This product isnt in high demand these days. Glock 19 Gen 2s were the first batch of the Glock 19s, also known as the newest neatest Glock 19s. So ultimately it's whether the features of each generation are worth it to you, and that's something only you can answer. Thank you for the information. The Gen 4 continued the finger grooves trend but upgraded the texture on the grip itself. 40 ejector. A compensated version - the 18C - was also devised. Power of the ammo didn't seem to matter as to where the case went, only how far it went. Part number 3 on the Glock Schematic. You can find all of our Glock holsters here. We call that a clue. The Gen 3 continued its upgrades with a universal accessory rail for mounting lights and laser accessories. Ok, Im officially ruling out the extractor. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. The Gen 3 was originally modular before modular was even cool, as demonstrated by its versatility. A lot of people consider a Gen 3 as a starting point. I started out with Glocks with an ancient 2nd Gen G21 (serial number AVExxx, so basically right after Glock introduced them). In this article, we'll dive into the differences between the various Glock extractors and explore which one is best for your needs. Reply. GunsMidwest has them. One of the last Gen 2 models to be released was the Glock 17C, which had barrel and slide porting. Install a new trigger housing. Glock 9mm ejector differences and performance comparison (with video) 336 vs 30274 vs 47021. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQEfWriceV0, https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?2188-Randy-Lee-s-dissertation-on-erratic-ejection-and-extraction-in-the-Gen-4-Glock-9mm. Not tested to work with any caliber except for 9mm. Heavier and with a clunkier feel while shooting, the Gen 3 can be a surprise for shooters accustomed to later model Glocks. Did your 30sf guns have the issue from day one or did they develop it? In one of my guns, a Vickers 19 I had to use an Apex FRE, non LCI spring loaded bearing, 30274 ejector and a machined locking block from Lone Wolf to get it to eject properly. Apex is an independent manufacturer and seller of aftermarket parts and accessories for Glock pistols, and is not affiliated with or endorsed by Glock, Inc. or Glock Ges.m.b.H. On some of my Glocks it was really bad; one day after shooting the worst G19 I came home with five bruises on my forehead and my wife was like WTF. 1902 wLCI - this is for standard width slides and should be what all of your Glock extractors are. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. While I prefer the mechanics and looks of the Glock Gen 5 series, you cant go wrong with any generation. The first of them were released in 1998. The claw looks much larger on the "old style". Some argue they are the best guns the company has made to date. As a result, their Glock pistols will continue to be dependable and accurate. However, the 17M and 19M were never (and aren't going to be) offered for civilian sale. Despite improvements, ejection still wasnt as good as it could be, despite the 30274s improved performance. GLOCK OEM GEN 5 FIXED REAR SIGHT G17/G19 $6.95. Sign up for a new account in our community. Granted, then Gen 5 guns are only offered (for now) in 9mm and .40 S&W. Does the barrel improve performance? The extractors cannot be that different in geometry and still work. As I have an extra 9mm extractor I can find out. Updated in 2017, the Gen 5 ditched the finger grooves much to the delight (or dismay depending on how you see it) of small-handed shooters. Apex extractors are significantly more expensive than Glock factory extractors. The versatility of the Gen 3 has been a major factor in its success, as it is one of the most versatile Glock models available. Is there a place to view inter generation changes/upgrades? Regardless of generation, each Glock is a solid build delivering accuracy and reliability. The grip texture remained the same, but the design benefits from an ambi slide stop again, catering to left-handed shooters. The Apex Failure Resistant Extractor for Glock pistols is designed with a more robust extractor claw and utilizes Apex's proprietary geometry. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. I didn't have any brass coming at my face (btf) or chest but most of the ejection was very weak. It is not likely to be offered for civilian sale. I thought the Suarez extractor color might bother me a little, but I think it looks pretty good now. Glock parts manufacturers are still producing Glock parts for both the Gen 3 and the Gen 5 models, making the Gen 3 the most popular. However, some serious differences did emerge between the Gen 3 and Gen 5 pistols. Interchangeable Glock parts are designed to provide you with the ability to customize and enhance your Glock pistol. Brownells is your source for Glock Extractors at Brownells parts and accessories. TNVC/NGI Giveaway: 15 winners with over $7000 worth of prizes!! While the steel wool DID improve the fit of the Gen4 extractor, I noticed some small, yet OBVIOUS differences between the Lone Wolf version and the Glock version. Many Glock 19 holsters, for instance, will fit all generations; some will only fit up to Gen 3. As luck would have it I bought a Gen 3 19 for my wife about a month prior, and it's never had BTF or any erratic ejection. Some slight filing/polishing could make a difference. This was flawless in every way. Thanks for the article. What parts are interchangeable between two Glock 19 Generation 3 and Generation 4 pistols, and one Generation 4 and one Generation 17 gun? The extractor, barrel throat, or feed ramp are all possible causes of a Glock failing to extract a spent case. If you have any questions related to the pricing and/or discount offered in a particular listing, please contact the seller for that listing. As indicated in the product descriptions, none of the parts and accessories on this site are official Glock products.Item # SP01176 (available at Brownells.com, MidwayUSA.com or sharpsshootingsupply.com).And/or replace the ejector with Glock Glock is a federally registered trademark of Glock, Inc. and is one of many trademarks owned by Glock, Inc. or Glock Ges.m.b.H. It affected Gen 3 and 4 pistols. $5.00. Posted April 23, 2012. I shot 50 more rounds out of my 19.5 today to reaffirm it's still fucked. 1906 wLCI - this is for the narrow width slides (30s, 36, 41) 1711 non-LCI for G36. The Gen 4, by comparison, provides a smoother experience with minimal recoil on the 9mm platform. The interchangeable parts offer a great way to customize your Glock and keep it running at its best. G36 only with non-LCI extractor. I saw in an email the other day that Lone Wolf now has a stainless extractor available. Glock is a federally registered trademark of Glock, Inc. and is one of many trademarks owned by Glock, Inc. or Glock Ges.m.b.H. An evolutionary reminder of Glocks past, the Gen 3 is perfect for collectors or those that wish to cling to the past. So far, they are restricted to 9mm and .40 S&W. Disclaimer | Privacy Policy. Regardless, I'm back to being super annoyed especially since my new 3.6" M&P 2.0 Compact is perfect and after a trip to S&W for a new striker and barrel my 4" 2.0 Compact is perfect. Here's a page from Apex talking about their extractor and some custom fitting of it that may help. The frame texturing is revised, and the Gen 5 guns also come with swappable backstraps and a slightly flared magwell. Glock Gen 3 pistols are - at the time of this writing - still in production and serve as the base models of all Glock guns regardless of caliber or frame size. The use of Glock on this page is merely to advertise the sale of Glock parts or components. AlphaWolf SIG P320 Skeletonized Extractor 9mm Flash Nitride Stainless Steel. Beretta released its PX4 Storm line in the 1990s without much fanfare, but it since has developed something of a cult-like following. TNVC/NGI Giveaway: 15 winners with over $7000 worth of prizes!! Apex is an independent manufacturer and seller of aftermarket parts and accessories for Glock pistols, and is not affiliated with or endorsed by Glock, Inc. or Glock Ges.m.b.H. When did they stop making gen3. By the end, you should have a better understanding of which Glock extractor will work best for you. Some guns (rare) with really bad ejection have a bad slide and cannot be fixed by changing ejectors or extractors. Extractor 10mm G20 - G29 non-LCI for older slide with 90 degree ejection port. 10th paragraph starts "In 1911, Glock also introduced". or gen 4? It makes me think the problem is somehow related to how much upward pressure is being exerted by a round in the magazine. Glocks ejectors are known for their superiority in terms of reliability and accuracy, but are all Glock ejectors the same? Voids the warranty though. Might need to respring it. Very consistent 3:30-4 ejection pattern after the swap. The most common ejectors are the standard Glock ejector, the small frame ejector, and the large frame ejector. Our site uses JavaScript for a smooth and modern shopping experience; we protect your data and never sell it to 3rd parties. It extracts the case from the chamber. Is this gun still being made for "Law Enforcement", and not to forget the "Bad Guys"? The 47021 displayed exceptional performance, throwing brass strongly at 3, 3:30, 10 feet away. Glock Factory Trigger Housing w/ Ejector. The slide is machined (not stamped) from solid steel, and most of the internal parts . So without further ado. Like anything else, incremental changes are made to the Glock platform to make it ostensibly better; and they usually are. [2022], Sig P320 Vs Glock 19. To make the gun more compliant with ATF regulations, a steel insert was added to the frame bearing the serial number. The Glock 19X has Gen 5 features with a Gen 3 slide and frame. No longer have that gun though. It is now possible to change the Standard and Optional language. More like a semi-staggered. Its time to see if the 47021 ejector, which is currently shipping with the G26 gen 5 and G34 gen 5, and the 19X, is as good as the 336, 3027) or 47021 ejectors. Glock rolled out the Gen 3 in 1998, an upgrade to its second generation of pistols. GLO-3442. I didn't chrono the ammo but it seemed like a few rounds were so weak that the slide didn't want to come back all the way. The Glock Gen 3 series features a single recoil spring, as opposed to the double spring of the Gen 4 and Gen 5 series. MIM machines can produce high-quality parts that would otherwise be difficult to machine. It's supposed to be basically all gen 3 with gen 4 and 5 features? As indicated in the product descriptions, none of the parts and accessories on this site are official Glock products.Item # 30274. The GMBS, as it were, is swappable backstrap panels to customize the fit of the pistol to the shooter. If youre partial to nostalgia, the Gen 3 is for you. Glock Extractor 9mm (G17 Gen5, G19 Gen5, G19X, G26 Gen5, G34 Gen5 MOS, G45, G45 MOS) $16.42. Gen 3 improvements included raised texturing, finger grooves (some love 'em, some hate 'em) and the Universal Glock Rail on the frame for mounting a weapon light. I have a G19 mutt. I'm just glad the BTF is no longer present. The number in circulation are dwindling, so they have become something of a collector's item. Glock 19 gen 3 Ejection Pattern Comparisons 336, "He had the right hand of the devil strapped tightly to his side. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Some folks had to resort to the expensive Apex aftermarket extractor to get their guns to run right. It never really worked out well for me, but I was able to get me in the center of my forehead by slinging brass straight back and forth from ejection port to ejection port. 800-741-0015. The Gen 5 guns also add front cocking serrations (muh press checks) to the slide. The Gen 5 featured some new internals as well as a slick new DLC coating that tends to attract fingerprints. It was really bad at first, to the point I developed a flinch because I was expecting to get hit with brass. Glock Extractor w/Loaded Chamber Indicator. The "Glock Gen 1" is literally just the first generation Glock 17, the original pistol that Gaston Glock invented for the Austrian military. Stay in the know. well thanks. It will nicely pile the cases to my right no matter what I shoot through it now. Part number 3 on the Glock Schematic. Change ammo, or Leave the guns stock, and just wear a brimmed hat with eye pro. The first significant update was the Glock Marksman Barrel. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. (Photo: Jacki Billings/Guns.com), The dual recoil spring of the newer gens, right, is a vast improvement over the Gen 3s single recoil spring. The two worst Glocks I have ever had for BTF were a Gen 3 19 and a Gen 4 21. And you can run the old 90 degree extractor in a newer gun with the right spring loaded bearing. So far, I have: Glock Advanced Certified Armorer | NRA Certified Instructor | Glock 500 Club | NRA Benefactor On Vacation (until Dictator is Deposed). The use of Glock on this page is merely to advertise the sale of Glock parts or components. just ordered the trigger housing for the 5th gen and for $7 i don't see why not. Just bought a used Gen 3 G17 built in the same time-frame that was virtually brand new. Seems to work ok but out of 200 rounds I had 3 or 4 left standing up it I guess let go of and they did not fully eject. The ejector on the trigger housing pretty much determines which way the empty goes. Did I read this correctly? Serial number is SAHxxx. The rim diameter on a 9mm is .392" and the 40S&W is .424", but the machined recess is the same diameter for both at .346". Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Are Glock 40's before Gen models still good? Never once has my Gen 2 model 19 failed to fire. The thing about it is that what works in one pistol won't work in another. Add to Cart Compare. Now gun owners no longer needed to press check or guess whether a round was in the chamber, they had a visual representation alerting them to such. Must use new style spring loaded bearing with this extractor. The Glock 19 4th Generation handgun adds texture and dimension. I have a 15# recoil spring and guide rod set coming from Wolff. Easily manageable, the Gen 4 produces great results and groupings. No, not all Glock ejectors are the same. Curious if any of the aftermarket extractors change geometry or if they are just better material? Just thinking out loud A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. It works great in mine for any 9mm I've shot. Good points, I really like the 40 to 9 conv so it will mostly be shot this way in 3 gun matches. Placed in pistols without ejection BTF problems too for the improved ejection pattern. Apex is an independent manufacturer and seller of aftermarket parts and accessories for Glock pistols, and is not affiliated with or endorsed by Glock, Inc. or Glock Ges.m.b.H. Thanks B, You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. The Glock 19 Gen 4 upgrades are subtle, yet leap out at the same time. Marginally, at best. There is no such thing as a perfect answer. As soon as the brass was fired it was shot out of the window so I assumed it was in the air (which is not the case) What do you think? My experience shooting a 3rd Gen 9mm Glock was typical: the gun performed fine and accurately. I have put a couple thousand rounds through the gun and it has gotten a lot better, to the point now that I may get one piece of brass to the top of my head every couple hundred rounds or so. Well see how that works. 2023 Alien Gear Holsters. Glock uses the term "generation" or "gen" to describe each successive one, i.e. But if it only happens with certain types of ammo it doesn't sound like a gun problem. As luck would have it, right after I bought my G19, reports started surfacing about problems with 3rd Gen guns, too, and my G19 exhibited horrific ejection issues. Welcome to the Glock Gun Parts section of Midwestgunworks.com. 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